I decided to make a register of cars of the AC brand in a format that is convenient for me.
In it, I want to include not only surviving cars, but all known cars.
I will start laying out pages in this section, then I will move on to thematic sections.
I need local experts to verify the information available to me. I would be glad for additional information and high quality photos
1903 Weller Touring
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #6
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #708
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #1673
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #1683
.... are you proposing an open register of all AC vehicles all on this forum?
/Paho
Much information on surviving and known Sociables and Auto-Carriers can be found here:
http://www.acsociable.byethost4.com/wordpress/ (http://www.acsociable.byethost4.com/wordpress/)
Quote from: paho on December 28, 2022, 15:58:44
.... are you proposing an open register of all AC vehicles all on this forum?
/Paho
Yes
Quote from: Old Crock on December 28, 2022, 16:09:14
Much information on surviving and known Sociables and Auto-Carriers can be found here:
http://www.acsociable.byethost4.com/wordpress/ (http://www.acsociable.byethost4.com/wordpress/)
Thank you. I know. Got a lot of information from there.
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #WA769
Quote from: Andrey1976b on December 29, 2022, 03:23:03
Quote from: paho on December 28, 2022, 15:58:44
.... are you proposing an open register of all AC vehicles all on this forum?
/Paho
Yes
Well Andrey I afraid I cannot agree to you publishing any individual and personal information on my AC in such a register.
/Paho
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #n/a
Quote from: paho on December 29, 2022, 08:22:49
Quote from: Andrey1976b on December 29, 2022, 03:23:03
Quote from: paho on December 28, 2022, 15:58:44
.... are you proposing an open register of all AC vehicles all on this forum?
/Paho
Yes
Well Andrey I afraid I cannot agree to you publishing any individual and personal information on my AC in such a register.
/Paho
Thank you for your reaction. And if this information is already in open sources?
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #n/a
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #n/a
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #O-8548
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #AP 4711
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #n/a
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #n/a
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #n/a
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #n/a
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #O 7196
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #n/a
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #n/a
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #LD 3413
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #n/a
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #LD 7369
Audrey
I Agree with Paho also if this is to be of all AC's then maybe the general section of the forum is better placed.
Gary
Quote from: GSouthee on December 29, 2022, 09:13:27
Audrey
I Agree with Paho also if this is to be of all AC's then maybe the general section of the forum is better placed.
Gary
I'm not against. What will the Administration say?
This would be a lot of work and I congratulate Andrey in taking it on, especially as some registers are so out of date as to be bordering on worthless. It does have very good potential.
The questions are (a) what it would contain and (b) where it should be published. If it is known (and generally available) information, it could have its own section on this actual website or it could have a stand-alone site.
Why is it necessary to have another separate Vintage register to that which exists?
Could they be combined?
Robin
Quote from: Robin A Woolmer on December 29, 2022, 13:26:19
Why is it necessary to have another separate Vintage register to that which exists?
Could they be combined?
Robin
See reply #8 - I read it that Andrey wishes to put a
complete list of cars in one place (= not just the vintage). In answer to your question, the vintage register is updated approx every 10 years, the last one was issued in Spring 2014. They are historically inaccurate, hopelessly out of date and incomplete.
Quote from: Andrey1976b on December 29, 2022, 08:26:46
Quote from: paho on December 29, 2022, 08:22:49
Quote from: Andrey1976b on December 29, 2022, 03:23:03
Quote from: paho on December 28, 2022, 15:58:44
.... are you proposing an open register of all AC vehicles all on this forum?
/Paho
Yes
Well Andrey I afraid I cannot agree to you publishing any individual and personal information on my AC in such a register.
/Paho
Thank you for your reaction. And if this information is already in open sources?
Hi Andrey,
the information on my vehicle on open sources that I know of, has been made anonymous with no registration information or ownership information which is as
it should be. Otherwise details were in the AC Club register (but the info. was scrambled in the last update that I am aware of). That register has controlled access and is not public.
I can see the need for upto date registers and I admire and respect your interest. Why not contact the club and offer your services?
/Paho
As a 60 year AC enthusiast and club member when I owned an Ace in the 1970's I'm not sure the forum is meant for this type of use and is the administrator/owner of the site up to the cost of storage space for the information/images and are there copyright issues with the use of images posted. I think this is something which needs coordination with the admisitrator and most likely should be a separate area of the website in a format similar to that of the https://acace123.de.tl/AC-Ace-and-AC-Aceca.htm website or Barchetta site for Ferraris, etc.
The information is obviously of interest to many enthusiast's but I'm not sure this is necessarily the place or format.
John
I agree with John. I would hope that something can be agreed with the powers that be.
/Paho
As I understand it, many are only concerned about information on current car owners.
I could exclude it if the owners themselves do not show off their cars on their pages on social networks.
Quote from: Andrey1976b on December 30, 2022, 05:23:19
As I understand it, many are only concerned about information on current car owners.
I could exclude it if the owners themselves do not show off their cars on their pages on social networks.
Your understanding is probably correct....but it still doesn't exempt you or the forum from GDPR.
For example thats why the club requests permission to store personal information when joining the club.
/Paho
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #n/a
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #AC 4684
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #AC 4480?
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #LC 8809
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #LA8934/LA3487/LD4466
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #n/a
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #n/a
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #n/a
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #n/a
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #n/a
Christ almighty how many ruddy pictures are there going to be.
Why not start your own website or facebook thingy.
Or get a life!
Gary
Quote from: GSouthee on December 30, 2022, 11:01:14
.....get a life!
Why do you insult him? He is offering a register of cars which is of historic value, both now and in the future. You may not be interested in the history of a given car, or the model range, but others, automotive historians like myself, are. This project, and Andrey, should be encouraged. Also, why do you insist on calling him Audrey, his name is Andrey. Already there are vehicles shown here that are not in the ACOC archive. A good job could be done in this project and, as said before, the discussion is which information it should contain and where it can be stored.
Hi Old Crock
Firstly that was not an insult merely a suggestion, as surely there is more in this life to do than post an inordinate number of pictures on the Forum.
I do have an interest in old vehicles, however there is a place for this sort of information. Such as a dedicated forum page, a stand alone webpage, Facebook etc etc etc
Posting all these pictures uses up a lot of space. Also, as has been mentioned there may be copyright issues.
As to calling him Audrey that is my error, the eyesight not being what it was. Andrey it will be.
So Andrey, perhaps you should look at the options available to you to post this information, if a single picture is indeed information ,as it has no accompanying detail of use.
Have a good day and a happy new year.
Gary
Andrey, here's a suggestion.
Why don't you contact the webmaster to see his response to having a separate section in the website. It could be worded something like 'vehicle archive' or 'model registry'. The photos could be a starting point with information (= whatever agreed) added about the vehicle (being as complete as agreed e.g. using a template). This could be amended by the forum user, including past/current owners, registrars, archivist, just as the website Wikipedia does – this would automatically show the amendment date, so future researchers, of a given car, would know if it was up-to-date information or years old. This section could become be a valuable resource.
If this has extra costs to the club, needing approval, then the idea put to the ACOC Council. If rejected, then consider a separate website.
For me an "open" registry" on this forum is an absolute no, something I feel strongly about.
Others are welcome to post their personal information but its not for me.
As I reside in a country which is more open than most I'm not about to share details that are best kept in a secure register such as the one the club
administers. I am willing to share my reasons but not on this open forum, the forum administrator is welcome to contact me.
A happy and prosperous New Year to you all!
/Paho
Quote from: paho on December 31, 2022, 12:48:22
...Others are welcome to post their personal information but its not for me.....
Paho, please read my posting again. There is no suggestion of including personal data. Indeed, the ACOC would not do that (being at risk under the 'Data Protection Act' of the UK). The listing I'm suggesting would be for the
individual cars and models, not the person. I have a vintage Bentley here, and take a look at this that we have
http://www.vintagebentleys.org/ (http://www.vintagebentleys.org/)
and see what is possible for the Bentley enthusiast...it is full of excellent information and searchable by model, chassis number, engine number, body builder etc. This is not the only site for searching marques - AC could become another one!
Relax, Paho, your 'personal' data would be safe....
Sorry "Old Crock", but the layout and information on the Bentley site is exactly what I am afraid of. If you lived where I do you would understand why. At least the registers on the AC Owners club site are restricted to members and follow GDPR requirements which is why I agreed to the terms. This forum is open to all and sundry, which I think is great, but it has its disadvantages!
I enjoy reading your contributions, so don't stop!
Have a great New Year!
BR /Paho
Sadly the Bentley site (which I think is great) is no longer being updated as the "owner" of the site decided to retire. Hopefully what is there will remain for a while, but sadly will then be lost.
I don't know where paho is based, it would be interesting to know where and why the suggested site could be threatening.
Hi Jam2,
as long as you promise not to publish the information I can explain why I'm not prepared to have my personal data published in a register on an open forum.
You can contact me via the forum's e-mail feature. I'm traveling at the moment but will get back to you.
/Paho
Quote from: Old Crock on December 31, 2022, 10:05:28
Andrey, here's a suggestion.
Why don't you contact the webmaster to see his response to having a separate section in the website. It could be worded something like 'vehicle archive' or 'model registry'. The photos could be a starting point with information (= whatever agreed) added about the vehicle (being as complete as agreed e.g. using a template). This could be amended by the forum user, including past/current owners, registrars, archivist, just as the website Wikipedia does – this would automatically show the amendment date, so future researchers, of a given car, would know if it was up-to-date information or years old. This section could become be a valuable resource.
If this has extra costs to the club, needing approval, then the idea put to the ACOC Council. If rejected, then consider a separate website.
Yes, I wrote to the Administrator, but there is no answer yet
Quote from: GSouthee on December 30, 2022, 15:41:19
Hi Old Crock
Firstly that was not an insult merely a suggestion, as surely there is more in this life to do than post an inordinate number of pictures on the Forum.
I do have an interest in old vehicles, however there is a place for this sort of information. Such as a dedicated forum page, a stand alone webpage, Facebook etc etc etc
Posting all these pictures uses up a lot of space. Also, as has been mentioned there may be copyright issues.
As to calling him Audrey that is my error, the eyesight not being what it was. Andrey it will be.
So Andrey, perhaps you should look at the options available to you to post this information, if a single picture is indeed information ,as it has no accompanying detail of use.
Have a good day and a happy new year.
Gary
I have pages on Facebook and Instagram, but the information is here.
And I need information
I understand your concern for personal data and I will not disclose it. Although only the name of the owner and the city are indicated in the club's register. With such a volume of information, it is difficult to find a person even in our time.
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van. Plate #1214
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van. Plate #8432
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van. Plate #LD 4465
Quote from: Andrey1976b on December 30, 2022, 10:01:20
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #LA8934/LA3487/LD4466
New photo for #LD4466
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van.
AC Sociable #82
AC Sociable #332
The owner's name is mentioned many times on the net
AC Sociable #354
AC Sociable #432
The owner's name is mentioned many times on the net
AC Sociable #R458
AC Sociable #493
The owner's name is mentioned many times on the net
AC Sociable #552
The owner's name is mentioned many times on the net
AC Sociable #603
AC Sociable #977
AC Sociable #1004
AC Sociable #1109
AC Sociable #1122
The owner's name is mentioned many times on the net
AC Sociable #1206
AC Sociable #1340
AC Sociable #1414
AC Sociable #1430
The owner's name is mentioned many times on the net
AC Sociable #1482
AC Sociable #1575
AC Sociable #1594
AC Sociable #1750
AC Sociable #1839
Quote from: Andrey1976b on January 09, 2023, 08:12:02
I have pages on Facebook and Instagram, but the information is here.
And I need information
I understand your concern for personal data and I will not disclose it. Although only the name of the owner and the city are indicated in the club's register. With such a volume of information, it is difficult to find a person even in our time.
Hi Andrey,
the club's registers also provide other information, and they are limited to club members.
I do not share your views on the difficulties of finding information in the world we have today.
One does not need "Facebook", "Instagram", or similar web applications to find information.
/Paho
AC Sociable #1874
AC Sociable #1950
AC Sociable. Engine #50/58
AC Sociable. Engine #C62
AC Sociable. Engine #367
AC Sociable. Engine #D369B
AC Sociable. Engine #400
AC Sociable. Engine #553/917
AC Sociable. Engine #695
AC Sociable. Engine #RK751
AC Sociable. Engine #894
AC Sociable. Engine #1561
AC Sociable. Engine #NZ2211
AC Sociable. Registration#5738
AC Sociable. Registration#6583
AC Sociable. Registration#AC149...
AC Sociable. Registration#AC 2130
AC Sociable. Registration#AC 2533
AC Sociable. Registration#AC 3048
AC Sociable. Registration#AC 3254
AC Sociable. Registration#ACH4
AC Sociable. Registration#AE 2113
The webmaster and/or the club archivist need to decide on a depository for these photos and information. It will be a valuable resource in the future.
... agreed, but the club needs to control who owns the ipr first....
AC Sociable. Registration#BH 1683
AC Sociable. Registration#C 4506
AC Sociable. Registration#LA 794
AC Sociable. Registration#LF 7384
AC Sociable. Registration#O 5940
AC Sociable. Registration#OA 4285
AC Sociable. Registration#P 31 AC
It seems Andrey is going to persist with this posting.
It is about time the moderator intervenes.
Gary
Quote from: GSouthee on January 20, 2023, 11:33:25
It seems Andrey is going to persist with this posting.
It is about time the moderator intervenes.
Gary
Administration don't mind as long as I don't break the rules
AC Sociable. Registration#SL 9810
AC Sociable. Registration#XK 9411
AC Sociable.
AC Sociable.
AC Sociable.
AC Sociable.
AC Sociable.
AC Sociable.
AC Sociable.
AC Sociable.
AC Sociable.
AC Sociable.
AC Sociable.
AC Sociable.
AC Sociable.
AC Sociable.
AC Sociable.
AC Sociable.
1913 AC Cyclecar
AC 10HP #4030
AC 10HP #4205
We now have the start of the AC four-wheeled cars from the Edwardian period, engines by Fivet. Photo below shows a very nice example that was imported from New Zealand into England some 6/7 years back.
Quote from: Old Crock on January 25, 2023, 08:26:36
We now have the start of the AC four-wheeled cars from the Edwardian period, engines by Fivet. Photo below shows a very nice example that was imported from New Zealand into England some 6/7 years back.
I know about it, but I haven't managed to make pages yet )
I collected information on all cars up to the second generation AC Six
AC 10HP #4383
AC 10HP #S42N415 F422
AC 10HP #BK 2887
AC 10HP #AC 3871
AC 10HP #EI 38
AC 10HP
AC 10HP
AC 10HP
AC 10HP
AC 10HP
AC 10HP
AC 10HP Light Armored Car
AC 10HP
AC 10HP
AC 12HP #5891
AC 12HP #6199
AC 12HP #6405
AC 12HP #6450
AC 12HP #6495
AC 12HP #6582
AC 12HP #6589
AC 12HP #7350
AC 12HP #7424
AC 12HP #7451
AC 12HP #7475
(https://sun9-78.userapi.com/impg/IqUoDAvgTxwKXlDHgslGTXqDpLZHHs4hdWCPnA/zQQ3NE_cMCw.jpg?size=1280x1054&quality=95&sign=6c55c614179e94b349e0f19fbd56f66a&type=album)
AC 12HP #7659
(https://sun9-45.userapi.com/impg/b6oZiVNvZDwuVycDFZtlNiFhmiBoBbH05JyF7w/-1wMlcYJmaY.jpg?size=640x360&quality=95&sign=87ca1534dfd9ca7a764ccff82570b55b&type=album)
AC 12HP #7967
AC 12HP #8001
AC 12HP #8066
AC 12HP #8223
AC 12HP #8530
AC 12HP #8796
AC 12HP #8960
AC 12HP #9012
AC 12HP #9026
AC 12HP #9188
AC 12HP #9365
(https://sun9-18.userapi.com/impg/ZzQg7yeXuagmeWx1V9joyw4n3KJoW0k-KpriEw/H5LpFNPTRNs.jpg?size=916x612&quality=95&sign=f827d8842a2054b0e9e197ef5ad4fb9d&type=album)
AC 12HP #9574
AC 12HP #17002
AC 12HP #20078
AC 12HP #20199
AC 12HP #20332
AC 12HP #20360
AC 12HP #20606
AC 12HP #20642
AC 12HP #20666
AC 12HP #20833
AC 12HP #20839
AC 12HP #20985
AC 12HP #21066
AC 12HP #21148
AC 12HP #21229
Photo 2023
(https://sun9-52.userapi.com/impg/IjmsRwWhR8SddXlZw9RzL5Xy5MlO_YErLcC1Rg/z4j6hRIW8Kg.jpg?size=719x719&quality=95&sign=a6731f67a8819b7510f54a47e6c159dc&type=album)
(https://sun9-55.userapi.com/impg/nNkbLjyA2wwl31D9-XSwCDy4gPypFbWzgudSLQ/MsqP1-7I_hE.jpg?size=719x715&quality=95&sign=96f86e185be2573927f02a7e3e323df9&type=album)
AC 12HP #21403
AC 12HP #21721
AC 12HP #21765
AC 12HP #21851
AC 12HP #30011
AC 12HP #30335
AC 12HP #30402
AC 12HP #30421
AC 12HP #30427
AC 12HP #30443
AC 12HP #30444
AC 12HP #30548
AC 12HP #30644
AC 12HP #30820
AC 12HP #30842
AC 12HP #30912
AC 12HP #30916
AC 12HP #30920
AC 12HP #31134
AC 12HP #31149
AC 12HP #31207
On my computer some photos show only a black screen (both the thumbnail preview and when clicked for full size) - is there a reason there's no photo visible?
Quote from: Old Crock on February 21, 2023, 11:10:32
On my computer some photos show only a black screen (both the thumbnail preview and when clicked for full size) - is there a reason there's no photo visible?
Completely black screen or text without a photo?
AC 12HP #31225
AC 12HP #31334
Quote from: Andrey1976b on February 22, 2023, 03:05:07
Quote from: Old Crock on February 21, 2023, 11:10:32
On my computer some photos show only a black screen (both the thumbnail preview and when clicked for full size) - is there a reason there's no photo visible?
Completely black screen or text without a photo?
text without a photo
Quote from: dkp_cobra on February 22, 2023, 07:07:28
Quote from: Andrey1976b on February 22, 2023, 03:05:07
Quote from: Old Crock on February 21, 2023, 11:10:32
On my computer some photos show only a black screen (both the thumbnail preview and when clicked for full size) - is there a reason there's no photo visible?
Completely black screen or text without a photo?
text without a photo
If there is only one text, then I do not have photos of this car yet
AC 12HP #31413
AC 12HP #31443
AC 12HP #31445
AC 12HP #31540
AC 12HP #5429
AC 12HP #A7458
AC 12HP #34 616
AC 12HP #288-505-R
AC 12HP #AC 8629
AC 12HP #BF 6202
AC 12HP #DD 3476
AC 12HP #PC 6825
AC 12HP #PC 7022
AC 12HP #PC 9837
AC 12HP #PC 8203
AC 12HP #PD 2986
Andrey, a lot of research and effort.
There are many photos I've not seen before.
Quote from: Old Crock on February 28, 2023, 11:10:00
Andrey, a lot of research and effort.
There are many photos I've not seen before.
Thank you
AC 12HP #PD 8451
AC 12HP #PE 1596
AC 12HP #PX 545
AC 12HP #TJ 5612
AC 12HP #WBA 7266
AC 12HP #XH 3255
AC 12HP #XL 4431
AC 12HP #YP 7923
AC 12HP #...C 3871
AC 12HP #...K 207...
AC 12HP
AC 12HP
AC 12HP
AC 12HP
AC 12HP
AC 12HP
AC 12HP
AC 12HP
AC 12HP
AC 12HP
AC 12HP
AC 12HP
AC 16HP Six #116
AC 16HP Six #10410
AC 16HP Six #10488
AC 16HP Six #11155
AC 16HP Six #11769
AC 16HP Six #11996
AC 16HP Six #12071
AC 16HP Six #12481
AC 16HP Six #12651
AC 16HP Six #12795
AC 16HP Six #12952
AC 16HP Six #13210
AC 16HP Six #13226
AC 16HP Six #13335
AC 16HP Six #13476
AC 16HP Six #13589
AC 16HP Six #13592
AC 16HP Six #13723
AC 16HP Six #13910
AC 16HP Six #13949
AC 16HP Six #14040
AC 16HP Six #14045
AC 16HP Six #14223
AC 16HP Six #14232
AC 16HP Six #14238
AC 16HP Six #14330
Photo 2023
(https://sun9-79.userapi.com/impg/pl1VV_qyC_imP_36ITHs9nDCllpB4guvliigfg/RrIEWU4USVY.jpg?size=2048x1536&quality=95&sign=1e5629ca85a66389d3411f71223becbd&type=album)
AC 16HP Six #14331
AC 16HP Six #14406
AC 16HP Six #14433
(https://sun9-24.userapi.com/impg/cOqA15oQlq8lWY58QBu2Apm1MjLqwM_r35rVaw/vqgPUBlpPRk.jpg?size=1020x662&quality=95&sign=d5a31992f8251fc77acebb9f32043586&type=album)
AC 16HP Six #14434
AC 16HP Six #14639
AC 16HP Six #14844
AC 16HP Six #14912
AC 16HP Six #15723
AC 16HP Six #15733
AC 16HP Six #15914
AC 16HP Six #15924
AC 16HP Six #16000
AC 16HP Six #16001
AC 16HP Six #16003
AC 16HP Six #16004
AC 16HP Six #16005
AC 16HP Six #16006
AC 16HP Six #16007
AC 16HP Six #16008
AC 16HP Six #16009
AC 16HP Six #16010
AC 16HP Six #16011
AC 16HP Six #16012
AC 16HP Six #16013
AC 16HP Six #16014
AC 16HP Six #16015
AC 16HP Six #16016
AC 16HP Six #16018
Hi Andrey
I have photos that I can send you of some of the cars where their chassis numbers are currently seen as 'black screen'. Also, do you want further notes - any other information - to add, concerning the cars you have recorded here?
Also, a note should be prepared for 'ACtion' advising others of this photographic resource on the forum.
Quote from: Old Crock on March 14, 2023, 09:54:27
Hi Andrey
I have photos that I can send you of some of the cars where their chassis numbers are currently seen as 'black screen'. Also, do you want further notes - any other information - to add, concerning the cars you have recorded here?
Also, a note should be prepared for 'ACtion' advising others of this photographic resource on the forum.
Thank you. I will be glad for any additional photos and information
AC 16HP Six #16019
AC 16HP Six #16020
AC 16HP Six #16021
AC 16HP Six #16022
AC 16HP Six #16023
AC 16HP Six #16024
AC 16HP Six #16025
AC 16HP Six #16026
AC 16HP Six #16027
AC 16HP Six #16028
AC 16HP Six #16500
AC 16HP Six #16500
AC 16HP Six #16501
AC 16HP Six #16503
AC 16HP Six #16504
AC 16HP Six #16505
AC 16HP Six #16506
AC 16HP Six #16507
AC 16HP Six #16508
AC 16HP Six #16509
AC 16HP Six #16510
AC 16HP Six #16511
AC 16HP Six #16512
AC 16HP Six #16513
AC 16HP Six #16514
AC 16HP Six #16515
AC 16HP Six #16589
AC 16HP Six #17000
AC 16HP Six #17001
AC 16HP Six #22482
AC 16HP Six #F2MB3093
AC 16HP Six #PH 8093
AC 16HP Six #PE 7799
AC 16HP Six #PF 6465
AC 16HP Six #PK 1605
AC 16HP Six #PK 6322
AC 16HP Six #PL 6939
AC 16HP Six #YU 2660
AC 16HP Six #XO 3932
AC 16HP Six #UJ 4386
AC 16HP Six #... 3641
AC 16HP Six
There are very important historical photos being shown here. Andrey has done a fine job in finding them and copying across to the forum.
The club archivist needs to ensure that these are now held permanently in the ACOC archives for future reference and research.
AC 16HP Six
AC 16HP Six
AC 16HP Six
AC 16HP Six
New chapter
AC 16/60 Ace #L10
Quote from: Andrey1976b on December 28, 2022, 10:24:45
Auto-Carrier Delivery Van #6
An interesting photograph! However, some of the information is not correct. Extensive research has shown the first appearance of the Auto-Carrier was in December 1906. The wheels on the example in this photograph date it much later - probably around 1910. The earlier models all had wire wheels. The signwriting of the company details is not clear but would help clarify the date.
I will continue
AC 16/60 Ace #L11
AC 16/60 Ace #L12
AC 16/60 Ace #L13
AC 16/60 Ace #L14
AC 16/60 Ace #L15
AC 16/60 Ace #L16
AC 16/60 Ace #L17
AC 16/60 Ace #L18
AC 16/60 Ace #L19
AC 16/60 Ace #L20
AC 16/60 Ace #L21
AC 16/60 Ace #L22
AC 16/60 Ace #L23
AC 16/60 Ace #L24
AC 16/60 Ace #L25
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In India, in the Supercar Club Cafe there is an unknown example in an unusual color.
Based on the external gas cap, the rear view mirror on the windshield pillar, and the shape of the soft top, it is similar to the 1927 AC Six Royal, chassis #13476.
A very interesting car. A couple of vintage AC's are known to be in India and this restored car doesn't appear to be either of them. Andrey, were there any more details with this photo e.g. chassis number, owner, location? It does have a gravity feed fuel tank (so may be a little earlier than 1927) though does have front brakes. Also, appears to lack front damping so the springs would be putting up with a lot more effort, especially considering India's roads. Paintwork gaudy, but maybe representing India's flag? The steering wheel and the seat style are wrong for the car, but overall it looks restored well. Any more info available?
Quote from: Old Crock on November 16, 2023, 12:45:03
A very interesting car. A couple of vintage AC's are known to be in India and this restored car doesn't appear to be either of them. Andrey, were there any more details with this photo e.g. chassis number, owner, location? It does have a gravity feed fuel tank (so may be a little earlier than 1927) though does have front brakes. Also, appears to lack front damping so the springs would be putting up with a lot more effort, especially considering India's roads. Paintwork gaudy, but maybe representing India's flag? The steering wheel and the seat style are wrong for the car, but overall it looks restored well. Any more info available?
Location:
Supercar Club Cafe, Raymond office, Pokharan Rd Number 1, J K Gram, Thane West, Thane, Maharashtra 400606, India
On looking at the photo again, it could be the car is still under restoration as no number plate, missing dampers, seat may be temporary (interior to be trimmed?) etc. It may be a six-cylinder and thus probably unrecorded in the vintage register. For gravity fuel tanks AC did not use a filler on the scuttle, but on the dashboard, so it may not be a petrol cap - it wasn't unusual to place a mascot or car badge here, especially if a calormeter was on the radiator, but can't confirm this as the photo pixellates when enlarging.
Whilst following up on AC cars in India, an interesting photo came to light. This photo shows the Maharaja Sir Vijaysinhji of Rajpipla, taken at his estate 'The Manor' at Old Windsor, UK, in 1927. Note his car in the background, an AC....clearly a man of taste. It was one of his stable of many cars, which included a number of Rolls-Royce Silver Ghosts and Phantoms!
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Quote from: Andrey1976b on January 11, 2023, 05:59:00AC Sociable #1122
The owner's name is mentioned many times on the net
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