help identify these tailights

[msgsobe]

Hi Guys, can't find what these are from on MA 200.
   they are marked "hella IGM0813C2, classe 2" one has a slight crack, need to find new ones.  help!!
   
   IMG]http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n20/markgold/6000PEMA200atThamesDitton5.jpg[/img]

[Classicus]

Good enough place to start asking....
   
   Hth [:)]
   
   http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproducts.asp?sg=&pgCode=010&sgName=Electrical&pgName=Lighting&agCode=0045&agName=Side+and+Rear+Lamps+%2D+Parts&pageno=1

[Robin A Woolmer]

They look like those fitted to a Sunbeam Alpine of the period, they were also fitted to Turner's!
   Not sure where to get them but if you contact Holden or S-V-C they might assist.
   
   Robin

[msgsobe]

thsnks, that holden site is great, whats S-V-C...

[jbottini]

If you look at period pictures of an alpine or tiger...they look the part. But as you have a hella p/n a good shop should be able to 100% accurately tell you what they fit or direect you to a replacement.

[Robin A Woolmer]

'www.s-v-c.co.uk'supply classic lights etc. I imagin there are many Sunbeam Alpine/Tiger cars in US
   
   Robin

[aex125]

As others have said, they look very close to Series 4/5 Alpines or Tigers. If they are the same parts, they are available from Classic Sunbeam Ossing New York 1-800-24-sunbeam, www.classicsunbeam.com; or Sunbeam Specialties Los Gatos Cal 408 371-1642, www.rootes.com.
   Jay

[Robin A Woolmer]

Have checked the UK owners site 'www.sumbeamtiger.co.uk' who have a spares section & can supply the Rear Red Lens £25, the rear Amber Lens £23 & re-chrome base £35.
   Telephone contact (44) 1207 581 025
   Hope this assists
   
   Robin

[Peterw11]

Mark:
   
   I've been trying to dope that out since you first posted the pictures of the rear end design.
   
   My best guess was Rover P5.
   
   But that'd be a Lucas part.  Hella tells me it's a German or Swedish manufacturer.
   
   Volvo 122, maybe?

[msgsobe]

better pics.  we've determined not sunbeam based on the shape of the housing. here is it:
   

[Classicus]

Probably the best way to start is to send an e-mail plus your very clear pic as an attachment to Holden and asking them... [:)]

[Emmanueld]

I asked a very knowledgeable friend of mine and he says: "They look like Carello from maybe Alfa 2000, Alfa 2600. Something Italian for sure."
   
   You might want to check with Re-Originals! They have a lot of difficult to find Italian parts. E-mail them photos, they are quite a good company!
   
   http://www.reoriginals.com/index.asp
   
   Regards,
   
   Emmanuel

[msgsobe]

I thought italian also, but they are hella.

[msgsobe]

my friends at ferrari chat have identified it as 1962 NSU fiat!!!

[Peterw11]

Actually, that may be correct.  I've never heard of the model, but I've heard of NSU and of course, Fiat, but never the two together.
   
   However, a quick search showed that it does, indeed, exist and was built in the correct time frame.  I couldn't find any clear pictures of the taillight, but the ones I did find look similar.
   
   Also, check out the Fiat 1100 sedan of the same year, or years.  It could be the same part, and I'm sure there's a lot more of them.
   
   Shouldn't be too hard to find. [;)]