How many MK IV's

[AK1131]

Does any one know how many Autokraft MK IV's were built? If so, how many are in the US? I have seen quite a few different numbers.
   
   Thanks,
   AK1131

[jbottini]

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[linklaw]

I just looked in the Shelby American World Registry, 1997 Edition, and I count 418 Autokraft MK IV's listed.  The serial numbers start with "01" then after a few cars go to "1001" and continue through "1396" consecutively. Then there are a few serial numbers, nonconsecutive after that. The book lists all known owners in 1997 and the country where each known owner was at that time. The vast majority of MK IV's were sold in the US, at least according to the registry. I did not have the time or desire to try to figure out exact numbers of cars for each country. John

[Classicus]

Hi [:)]
   
   I wonder if you could also possibly help out please on another query ?
   
   Over on the 428 Forum and in our newly created AC 428 Register - listed under Query No. 21 near the bottom. I'm having a lot of difficulty trying to find the original CF(X?) chassis number of an old 428/ Cobra conversion as the dealer selling it doesn't seem to know ! According to his advert (link below) it's apparently listed in the Shelby American World Registry on Page 221 ?
   
   http://www.classic-center-niederrhein.de/angebotsliste/oldtimerbestand/seiten/accobra427.htm
   
   Unfortunately as I don't have this book could you confirm if this is true or not ? If it is could you tell me the 428's original chassis number then it can be permanently entered onto the Register.
   
   Really appreciate if you can help
   
   Thanks
   
   Paul [:)]
   Quote:
   "AC Cobra 427 SCX 3239, Red, Black interior. Side oiler engine, Borgwana, Transmission. SC Dashboard, Side pipes. Car was recreated on AC 428 Frua Chassis. Completed and Restored with original parts. Engine since restaurations 1500 Miles. Story of this car You can read in Shelby American World registry - Page 221. Original Car was sold at Auction on Long Iland in June 1991. Last owner unknown. This Car is registered in Germany under Chassis Number SCX 3239. It drives like the original and looks like real 3239."

[linklaw]

Hi Paul, I just read the history of CSX 3239 from pages 221 and 222 of the 1997 SAAC Registry and the only mention of the car described above is as follows:  "...a car purporting to be CSX3239 was advertised in the summer of '90 in a catalog for an auction to be held on the Isle of Jersey in 10/90. Advised by several people that the car in England was a fraud, James Classic Car Auctioneers apparently did nothing to prevent its sale. In the summer of '91, following an inspection by Inspector Hinchliffe of New Scotland Yard's Stolen Car Squad, the car in England was confirmed as an air-car. The real 3239 was entered in a Guernsey auction (Greenwich Connecticut)6/90...." SAAC Registry, 1997.  There is no mention of the AC428 converted to create this car or its chassis number. It seems to me that the seller of the purported "SCX 3239" is being a little more than misleading about its heritage. He appears to be quoting the Registry as authenticating documentation, when, in fact, the Registry says this car is a fraud. The AC 428s are mentioned in the Registry as follows: "These cars are considered the AC successor to the Cobra". Unfortunately, there are no serial numbers or other information listed. Hopes this helps you. John

[Classicus]

Thanks John for your kind help and very useful information. I'll remove Query No. 21). next Update though keep all the details separately in case.
   
   Doesn't it start you wondering just how attractive the marque AC must be to fraudsters ? Perhaps the Club ought to think about starting a "Fraud AC Register" sometime !! [:D]
   
   Paul

[AK1131]

Since my inquiry ran off on a tangent, I decided to investigate further. I contact John Owen at AC cars limited. John report the records show 460 chassis numbers registered. With the caos regarding SAAC and their love / hate relationship with the MK IV's, the information provide from John Owen is appreciated. Interesting is the fact that the page from the 1997 SAAC registry shows 386.[8D]

[ANF289]

quote:Originally posted by AK1131
   
Since my inquiry ran off on a tangent, I decided to investigate further. I contact John Owen at AC cars limited. John report the records show 460 chassis numbers registered. With the caos regarding SAAC and their love / hate relationship with the MK IV's, the information provide from John Owen is appreciated. Interesting is the fact that the page from the 1997 SAAC registry shows 386.[8D]
   

The ACOC 2002 MK IV register data are consistent with both numbers.  As seen in the table below, there were 386 AK designated cars and 73 AKL designated cars, for a total of 459 (darn close to Owen's 460) chassis built between 1978-1996. The real question is how many are still with us?  I was surprised to see so many AKL's listed, but all were confirmed as AC built Lightweights.  Note that the numbers for year, country, color, engine, and drive are based on 2002 data.  Color and engine type are as they left the factory except for rollers sold without engine (SWE).  Note that rare colors were grouped with a more common similar color.  For example, platinum was included under silver and oyster and graphite were included under grey.
   
   

[AK1131]

Dear ANF289,
   
   Thank you for your reply. Looks like you have the accurate information. Can you provide a printable ACOC MK IV registry or provide a link so that I can print?
   
   Thank you,
   Fred Mix

[ANF289]

quote:Originally posted by AK1131
   
Dear ANF289,
   
   Thank you for your reply. Looks like you have the accurate information. Can you provide a printable ACOC MK IV registry or provide a link so that I can print?
   
   Thank you,
   Fred Mix
   

Hi Fred,
   Click on HOME under AC Owners Club above and sign-in under the ACOC Members Login, go to Model Directory, select Cobra MkIV & Superblower from the drop-down model selection box, and click on the 2002 MkIV Register, which is a PDF file.
   Best,
   Art

[AK1131]

Dear ANF289,
   
   Thank you for the ACOC MK IV registry information. I found the MK IV registry and printed it for my file. What I cannot find is the ACOC AC MK IV Register(2002) you show in your reply to me. If you can provide me a link or an avenue to the data so that I can download and print, I would greatly appreciate it.
   
   Best regards,
   AK1131

[SBB]

quote:Originally posted by AK1131
   
Dear ANF289,
   
   Thank you for the ACOC MK IV registry information. I found the MK IV registry and printed it for my file. What I cannot find is the ACOC AC MK IV Register(2002) you show in your reply to me. If you can provide me a link or an avenue to the data so that I can download and print, I would greatly appreciate it.
   
   Best regards,
   AK1131
   

   
   Fred,
   I believe what you are referring to is the 2002 MkIV Register @
   http://www.racecar.co.uk/acoc/models/cobra%5FMKIV/.  If you do not have this file you can e-mail me at anf52@yahoo.com and I will send the PDF file to you.
   Best,
   Art