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New Correct Ace,Aceca,Greyhound & Cobra Fuel Caps

Started by AC Ace Bristol, July 08, 2011, 09:39:08

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nikbj68

quote:
Originally posted by Gus Meyjes...it still looks like nothing but puerile and banal to me...[:)]Gus
I resemble that remark!! [:D]
   
   Here are some photos of the original Ace fuel cap which will be used for reference at Ceandess:
   

   
   
   
   
   
   ...and what I think is Lynn Park`s Early unrestored Cobra from the ClubCobra thread:
   
   

   
   On the originals, the seals were riveted in, but the later versions are screwed together, so I suggested that the 'new original' is  made that way too, not only to reduce re-tooling/extra manufacturing operation & the associated costs, but to ease maintenance as well.

   
   

A-Snake

quote:
Originally posted by nikbj68
   
quote:
Originally posted by Gus Meyjes...it still looks like nothing but puerile and banal to me...[:)]Gus
I resemble that remark!! [:D]
   
   Here are some photos of the original Ace fuel cap which will be used for reference at Ceandess:
   

   
   
   
   
   
   ...and what I think is Lynn Park`s Early unrestored Cobra from the ClubCobra thread:
   
   

   
   On the originals, the seals were riveted in, but the later versions are screwed together, so I suggested that the 'new original' is  made that way too, not only to reduce re-tooling/extra manufacturing operation & the associated costs, but to ease maintenance as well.

   
   

   

   Nik,
   FWIW, If the cap that you pictured on the black car is the actual sample that will be used, you will have a problem with detail. That one appears to have been re-plated and has lost a lot of detail.
   
   The interior gasket section design of that cap is not correct either.
   
   Jim

AC Ace Bristol

Jim  & All interested parties
   
   Thank you for your observation....
   
   Rest assured, my cap is not being used to produce the mould.
   
   Ceandess have the tooling for the correct shape, size etc but not the release button, The cap off Tims car will be used to confirm correct keyhole shape release and a new Mould will be made.
   
   Regards the Seal/ Anti splashback secured under the cap, this unit is no longer  secured in place by a rivet, therefor can be replaced as and when required.  Please note the material and size of washer & Seal has changed a few times during the past 50 years of manufacture.
   
   When taking the pictures of my cap via my Blackberry, the throwback of light / reflection distorts the crispness of detail.
   (this cap has never been rechromed, definitely not since 1964, polished maybe. Hence loss of definition/detail...[;)]
   The seal was replaced approx 1985 when BEX333 was resprayed Black.
   
   Will post a Picture of correct seal later today...[;)]
   
   Keith..[:)]..[:)]

nikbj68

quote:
Originally posted by A-Snake...Nik,
   FWIW, If the cap that you pictured on the black car is the actual sample that will be used, you will have a problem with detail. That one appears to have been re-plated and has lost a lot of detail.
   The interior gasket section design of that cap is not correct either.
   Jim
Agreed, there is a big difference between Keith`s own & the Cobra one below.
   
   

   
   

   My apologies for rushing my previous post, Keith did state that he has been lent another cap for 'reverse engineering' by Ceandess, Hopefully images to follow soon! [:)]

csx2060

Keith
   
   I would like to purchase one of the fuel caps.
   
   Please let me know what you need from me to complete the transaction.
   
   Thanks
   
   Roy Crowninshield
   40 Windcliff Dr
   Asheville NC 28803
   
   roycrowninshield@gmail.com
   
   phone 828 808 7336
   
   
quote:
Originally posted by AC Ace Bristol
   
New Correct Fuel Filler Cap
   
   Had a meeting with Peter Killey (MD) and  Chris  a  colleague  at Ceandess Ltd. Wolverhampton, England.
   The manufacturers of the original Fuel Filler Cap fitted to The AC Ace, Aceca, Greyhound and 260/289 Cobra.
   
   They have agreed to manufacture a small run to the correct specification, if we can put together a block order for minumum   dozen / twenty units.
   
   I have arranged to take my Filler Cap off  BEX333 and take it with me to the pre-arranged  meeting next week on Thursday 14th July. Thereby we guarantee 100% authenticity prior to manufacture.
   
   Budget price  £45 / £50 each subject to Quantity ordered, ( P&P + vat Additional).
   Will negotiate hard to reduce price on behalf of those interested in ordering.
   
   Ceandess pronounced .. C & S... The internal seal anti-splash back unit that fits inside the filler cap is still available as a spare part, so those wishing to refurbish their old unit can do so.... £/$ ..[?]
   
   I will confirm Price of this spare part next week.
   
   In the meantime can anyone reading this thread please have words with other Ace, Aceca and  Cobra MK1 owners and let me know of interest shown.
   
   Will keep you all informed of progress..[;)]
   
   Keith..[:)]..[:)]
   
   

antashton

Please put me down for one
   
   Anthony Ashton
   The Coach House
   14 Cottenham Park Road
   London SW20 0RZ
   
   Tel 07909541877

EBBIEMERRITT

KEITH,
   
       In reply to your inquiry of 08 July, (and I have responded to you directly via your personal e-mail) I posted this information on our COBRA COUNCIL (55 members) e-mail, and in one hour I got back requests for 6 more caps . . . and it's not over, the West Coast has yet to wake up !  I told them I needed all responses in today. I will coordinate the total order.
   
      So that order this morning from me for 6 is now increased to 12 . . . by the end of the day it may be significantly higher, I will keep you posted.
   
   Hope this helps in your negotiations.
   
                  THANKS,
   
                        EARA
                        CSX2535

AC Ace Bristol

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   Received ammended order
   
   
   KEITH,
      I posted this information on our COBRA COUNCIL (55 members) e-mail, and in one hour I got back requests for 6 more caps . . . and it's not over, the West Coast has yet to wake up !  I told them I needed all responses in today.
   
      So that order for 6 is now increased to 14 . . . by the end of the day it may be significantly higher, I will keep you posted,
   
   KEITH,
   
       Cap count increase, now at 14.
   
   THANKS,
   
    EARA
   
   Ammended 23.46  Tuesday 12th July  ..  Thank you for collating a Good order, appreciated.  I / we Must be carefull  not to duplicate order/s.  Keith            
   THANKS,
   
   EARA
   
   -----Original Message-----
   From: BRYAN MOSELEY [mailto:bryan.mo@btinternet.com]
   Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:05 AM
   To: Keith Lessiter
   Cc: Merritt, Eara A MVN-Contractor
   Subject: Fw: RE: AC Owners Club Contact (UNCLASSIFIED)
   
   Hi Keith - please see message below re your run of petrol caps - another customer!
   
   Bryan
   
   
   --- On Tue, 12/7/11, Merritt, Eara A MVN-Contractor <Eara.A.Merritt@usace.army.mil> wrote:
   
   
   
      From: Merritt, Eara A MVN-Contractor <Eara.A.Merritt@usace.army.mil>
      Subject: RE: AC Owners Club Contact (UNCLASSIFIED)
      To: "BRYAN MOSELEY" <bryan.mo@btinternet.com>
      Date: Tuesday, 12 July, 2011, 14:01
   
   
   Running total as 23 46 12th July  ..  ..  37 Caps  + 50 caps Received on seperate order.
   
   New total..  ..  ..  87 Fuel Filler Caps

   
   Keith..[:)]..[:)].

AC Ace Bristol

Running total Ammended,
   
   Antony Ashton .. .. .. .. 1 Cap
   
   CSX2060    ..  ..  ..  ..  1 Cap
   
    New running Total as 01.03 Wednesday 13th July.. ..  89 Caps
   
   Thanks Guys, looks like I will be in good position to negotiate better price for 100 + pieces.  Really didn't expect this sort of response. Especially in just 5 days...[;)]
   
   Will keep you all informed after meeting at Ceandess on Thursday 14th July..
   
   Keith..[:)]..[:)]

Gus Meyjes

Thank you, Keith, for going through the trouble!!
   
   Gus

Gus Meyjes

Keith,
   
   I need 3 more gas caps for David Wagner.
   
   So the total from me is:
   
   Gus:  1
   Ron:  2
   David:3
   
   Thanks!

AC Ace Bristol

MEEE THINKS!! .... I'm in the wrong line of business
   
   
   Hi Keith - here's another one!
   
   Bryan

   
   --- On Wed, 13/7/11, ANTHONY CRABTREE <aacrab@gmail.com> wrote:
   
   From: ANTHONY CRABTREE <aacrab@gmail.com>
   Subject: FUEL CAP
   To: bryan.mo@btinternet.com
   Date: Wednesday, 13 July, 2011, 10:46
   
   Hi Bryan,
   
   I am a member of ACOC and have been looking at the ACOC site concerning the original fuel cap. I need your assistance in placing an order for one ( 1 ) fuel cap. Do not have knowledge on using the ACOC posting site. Could you either add my order or give me a E-mail for placing the order. Restoring 1958 AC BRISTOL 1019 here in Virginia, USA.
   
   Kind regards,
   
   Tony Crabtree .[;)]
   
   Tony your order has been recorded.
   
   Thank you Bryan for passing on numerous enquiries you have received as  ACOC Forum Administrator.
   
   Seriously ..  ..  Quick count..  ..
   
   New running total  as of (18.16 )Wednesday 13th July.. .. 92 Fuel Filler Caps
.
   
   Keith..[:)]..[:)]

EBBIEMERRITT

KEITH,
   
      Our cap count has now increased from 14 to 16.
   
                   THANKS,
   
                         EARA

EBBIEMERRITT

KEITH,
   
      Our cap count has now increased from 14 to 16.
   
                   THANKS,
   
                         EARA

AC Ace Bristol

Received the following email order this evening:-
   
   
   Dear Keith,
   
   I'm told there is a possibility that correct Cobra/Ace fuel filler caps could be made as a small production run by Ceandess.
   I'm a member of both the ACOC (memb no. 4318) and The 289 Register - I understand the price may be around £50 each.
   Please would you put me down for 3 caps, up to a maximum cost of £250 for the three?
   
   Any problems, further information, deposit requirements, payment instructions etc - please contact me on rsk@ac289.com rs.k@virgin.net
   
   or 01480 468775
   
   Many thanks,
   
   Roger King
   
   
   Along with Ebble Merritt order increase from 14 to 16.
   
   
   We now have running total of  97 Fuel Filler Caps  
   
   Keith..[:)]..[:)]