Mystery door handle identification

[westcott]

These are the Midget or MG GT handles, i bought  some via ebay as well, they are all repros.

[Superarnie Mk2]

Thanks all for your contributions, but as clarified earlier in this thread, it is the actual interior door opener handle which I am trying to identify not the pull handle. I think the door opener is from a Mk1 Granada having done a little research. I also think the same openers were fitted to some Mk2 Capri's. If anyone could supply part numbers that would be helpful.
   Regards
   Gary

[jon]

It looks like a Ford item to me. I have a similar looking handle on both of my plastic cars, pictures below; the all chrome one on my 1985 AC 3000ME and the all black plastic one on my 1985 Midas Bronze Mk2. The all black one is from a Mk2 Escort, the all chrome one from a Capri or Granada.
   The outer surround is separate, so chrome or black can be interchanged. Both are plastic mouldings, and they are attached to the main assembly with four tags which snap off with age. Chrome surrounds are harder to find than the black ones, but they come up on Ebay occasionally.
   
   

[Superarnie Mk2]

Hi Jon, I think you are spot on. I have seen the chrome ones fitted to the mk1 Granadas and some Capri's. The Mk4 Cobras appear to have the black surround which I think was fitted to the Capris and the chrome surrounds were found on the Granadas.
   Regards
   Gary

[westcott]

I received the Capri 2 inside release handles (door openers with chrome handle) today and compared them with the ones in my mk iv. They look the same but i did not have the time to disassemble the parts from my door to see if they are the same from the back side as well.
   
   If you can wait until next week i will come back with new infos.
   
   I found a capri 3 door opener surround as well on the shelf and compared it with the mk iv part. the mk iv part is more or less 3-5 mm shorter, has the same height and mounts to the mk iv handle with ease.
   
   The next alternative sample i have is a capri 2 door opener surround repro chromed. It fits also to the mk iv handle but is about 3 mm shorter, the front of the handle is nearly touching the surround.
   
   I can bring up some pictures as well in the next few weeks if you want.
   
   Westcott

[westcott]

Here is a comparison of the mk IV surround with the chromed capri2 and the capri 3 surround. The Capri 3 is longer and has a stepped surface. The capri 2 is slightly smaller and has a more defined V shaped profile. The MK IV has a small flattened surface and is not asolutely v-shaped as the capri 2.
   
   Therefore in my opinion the surround itself is the same as the Escort mk2 as shown in Jon's pics.
   
   
   
   I'm not able to post pictures, what's the trick behind ?

[C9OBY]

quote:Originally posted by westcott
   
   I'm not able to post pictures, what's the trick behind ?
   

   
   Photo posting topics are here.....
   
   http://www.acownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=844
   
   http://www.acownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=145

[westcott]

Here we go, starting from the left, the comparison of the mk iv, capri2 and capri3 surrounds
   
   
   
   
   
   All fit to the mk iv inside release handle but have different cross sections.
   
   
   Here you can see the little flat surface on top of the surround cross section on the Mk iv part where the capri one is more v- shaped.
   
   

[westcott]

The door opener or inside release handle is used in different 80s Fords. I bought 2 new from a Ford Old Parts shop here in Germany online. The ones i ordered are from Capri MK II and definitely the same as on my MK IV, I compared both yesterday.
   
   Westcott

[Superarnie Mk2]

Hi,
   below is a link to Capri Mk2 door surrounds offered on eBay (UK), are these surrounds the same as yours? It is suggested earlier in this thread by Westcott that the suurounds have a flattened outer surface.
   
   http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ford-capri-mk2-3-passenger-side-interior-door-handle-/280744518796?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item415dad648c
   
   regards
   
   Gary

[westcott]

The Capri 2 surround is pictured on the right  my pic above, they have a styling split line on top and show a stepped top surface with 2 different graines.
   
   They fit on the MK IV but are NOT the same, so if you want to use them you need 2 for a conversion !
   
   They  ar a bit longer as the MK IV because of the bi-grained top surface which is wider.
   
   The MK IV surrounds are definitely from a Escort MK 2.
   
   I will take some more detailed pics today to show the difference.

[westcott]

O.K. final comparison of bezels fitting to the MK IV inside release handle housing. They all fit to the handel housing but are all different.
   
   AC Autokraft MK IV, used on Ford Escort MK2, section cut is trapezium, surfaces are polished, clipped with 2 teeth behind the housing, inner length is 80mm, outer length is 96mm. Ford # is 77AB-T226K23AA/BA
   
   
   Capri 1/2, Granada, Escort repro bezel chromed, section cut is a V, inner surface more angled, therefore the inner length is only 77 mm, outer lentgh is 93mm. This let the end of the lever sit on the inner surface after usage, so the chrome will come off in this area after a while, clipped with the 4 legs to the 4 ramps on the housing.
   
   
   
   Capri 1/2 original bezel, section cut is trapezium, top surface has a groove which devides the bezel into 2 different grains, inner grain is polished, outer grain is rough, clipped with 2 teeth behind housing. Inner length is 80mm, outer length is 101mm. Ford # is M80GB-F22620 AA
   

[westcott]

Here we go again.
   I received today the last online order i made for bezels or surrounds.
   
   The final pair is out of a Escort MK2 and the same as the ones used on the MK IV, they just have a silver painted top surface.
   Ford # is 77AB-T226K23AA/AB
   
   Here the pics.
   
   
   
   
   
   These are new old stock but reproductions are available online as well, just ask if they have the same design and shape.
   
   If you want to order online i could copy a link to the products when interested.
   
   Westcott

[nikbj68]

On Opel/Vauxhall paper? Are you trying to confuse us?[:p]
    Seriously, excellent work, post the link for easy reference by anyone who may need it.
   [:)]

[westcott]

For all interested in the shop details:
   Homepage: www.motomobil.com
   The online shop is down at the moment, but you can order by phone in English.
   Their shop part number for the black bezels with painted silver top: 60483010-4
   Part description, german: Zierrahmen Türöffner innen schwarz mit silbernem Rand Escort 2
   Price: 9,40 € each
   
   Again, i received the original parts NOS, i don't know if the reproduction parts look the same !!
   If you (or they) are in doubt send them a copy of the picture above for confirmation !
   
   I understood that if you order a reproduction part it will look like the chromed one which is a bit too short as pictured and discussed above.
   
   Westcott