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#1
428 Frua Forum / The right engine for the Frua!
March 24, 2008, 19:23:53
Hi Ron, I imagine that makes that Pantera motor around 383 ci?
   Astounding power/torque,have you fitted a pair of wings? Incredible potential in these engines.
   
   Emmanuel, Hi! That answers the question I guess;obviously with the sidepipes I am hearing two sets of four when driving,I am pleased with the smoothness of my 351w stroker, but a 289 Mk 2 (with underslungs) I heard recently was SWEET!
   
   Paul.[:)]
#2
Hi Chuck,thanks for this story, wonderful to see a car correctly kept for 38 years in original condition, I had never seen one of these before, dramatic shape to say the least!
   
   Paul.[:)]
#3
And; definitely invest in an 'Accumate' charger; these will whack your battery round to 13v even if really low, well worth the money.
   
   Paul/runt.[:)]
#4
428 Frua Forum / The right engine for the Frua!
March 23, 2008, 11:09:45
Thanks Emmanuel, when my 393w was built, a 1972 block was used; as '69-'74 351w had more metal and weigh I think about 8lb more?
   As you say the larger bearings are an issue for racers.
   I guess with the different firing order perhaps the 347 stoker might SOUND different to a 351w..or wouldn't it be noticeable?
   
   Paul.[:)]
#5
428 Frua Forum / The right engine for the Frua!
March 21, 2008, 21:58:59
Thanks Emmanuel,all is explained. I forgot to say, yep those are the exact bore/stroke for my 393; although some builders (like Engine Factory) refer to these as a 396..?
   As to the 302 stroker 347, we have a company over here called Real Steel offering one of those, claimed 422 ft/lbs @5000 rpm, over 360 ft/lbs in the midrange, I always thought as 351w has a stronger block, why not start with that ..?
   (Don't mean to knock the 302, those revvy Boss motors sound wonderful!)
   
   Paul.[:)]
#6
428 Frua Forum / The right engine for the Frua!
March 19, 2008, 21:38:02
Hi Emmanuel, yep when I looked at the 351w stroker options what shied me away from 408 was that it's 'square' and as you say; even  393w for example has a longer stroke than a 390 FE..!
   I asked for no more than 400 horse as I had no experience piloting any 'Cobra type' car, and inhabit the traffic infested E.London suburbs! But..I did want lots of torque for lazing in fourth/fifth.
   The motor made 390 horse on dyno; 450+ ft/lbs, pulls like a lion and still has that lovely instant response to the loud pedal that all tuned SBF have.. haven't been brave enough to bring in the secondaries yet (Holley 650).
   I would have loved a 427 FE but as you say these cars are easier through the bendy stuff with a Windsor; also I was running out of money!
   Have recently picked up a wonderful book entitled 'Super '60's Fords' by John Smith chronicling the Total Performance era, 1957-73,great learning curve for me and I'm thinking WHAT a range of power units; FE, 289-351w family, and 351c all in one decade!
   
   Paul.[:)]
#7
428 Frua Forum / The right engine for the Frua!
March 18, 2008, 14:56:56
I'm sure the Fo Mo Co crowd will watch this space with reverence;nothing wrong with what you're doing there. Thanks for imparting all this knowledge in layman's terms Emmanuel, I've heard of 351w people suffering rod angle problems when stroking out to 427,(on other forums),I see why you are being careful here.
   Next question.. how do you rate the Eagle 'I' beam rods, these are on my 393w, with Eagle steel crank, why are there 'H' and 'I' rods?
   I bet your FE will run sweetly on the dyno, my answer to friends who ask; "How do you pay for the gas..?" has been the same for years; I join them in the pub ONE night a week, they're in there seven nights.[;)]
   Racing the GT40.. must have been terrifying (and HOT)having that monster 427 rumbling away behind your shoulder, these guys were supermen.
   Looking forward to updates!
   
   Paul.[:)]
#8
General Forum / £25 London Congestion Charge
March 17, 2008, 22:20:36
Today we learn that 'Mare' Livingstone is being overhauled in opinion polls by rival Boris, don't know if this chap is a friend of the motorist but he can't be worse..?
   
   As said, our apathy and British reserve will be our downfall..
   
   Paul.[:(!]
#9
428 Frua Forum / The right engine for the Frua!
March 17, 2008, 22:11:45
This has to be the 'ultimate hyper motor'; looking forward to the pics, and later on, hearing your driving impressions..!
   Excuse my ignorance, why are Chevvy parts being used?
   It's worth remembering that the first FE motors (352?) saw the light of day in '58 I think, fantastic the potential in these motors, this will be the icing on the cake in that beautiful Frua!
   
   Paul.[:)]
#10
What we're  already seeing looks nice! I see now what you mean re: headers, same as Tony's car,thanks for the pic!
   
   Paul.[:)]
#11
That's going to be very special Emmanuel,the Halibrands look wonderful on all these cars, wise move re; tyres.
   The ability of CF 7 with auto tanny and 2.88 diff to reach the 'ton' in fourteen is I think a great credit to the lugging power of the stock 428 motor,incidentally looking at the 'headers' on Toni's car; are those stock 428 Frua item,looking at my road tests of CF 7 I can't be sure (and my close vision is rubbish these days!)
   
   Paul.[:)]
#12
Hi Emmanuel, points noted, was just thinking though that those heads,cam, blueprinting must 'warm up' the 428 FE; be interested in your 'guestimate' of power output here, as I know youre well up on these engines, didn't notice which axle ratio Tony is using, as to.. grip, I wanted SO MUCH to use 15" wheel/tyre on my 'k*t car'[:I]; but went for the 16" so I could fit the Toyo (to avoid my car becoming a widowmaker), glad I did.. I may be a dinosaur in many ways, but modern tyres are amazing.
   
   Paul.[:)]
#13
Thanks for these Chuck, Toni Valenti's car is sensational, interesting how the 0-100 time is four sec quicker than the 'stock' version, I wonder what kind of power/torque its making, great to see a different angle on a beautiful classic.
   
   Paul.[:)]
#14
Hi James,Congrats on your purchase and good to hear of your maiden voyage!
   
   A bell rang in my head and made me dig out 'Autocar World's Fastest Cars'; Xmas 2001, and there she is.. X577HRD in the 0-100 mph and back to nought, stunning in that red with the black wheels, some murmurs about traction etc; nothing new to Cobra people!
   
   With that Tremec six speed, yours should be quite economical @ cruising speed, great to hear of this car again, enjoy!
   
   Paul/runt.[:)]
#15
428 Frua Forum / 39 PH in Octane..
December 17, 2007, 20:06:26
Aaron; just noticed your post; I have to stay with the motoring section; as the trouble and strife sometimes comes and finds me..[;)]
   
   Paul.