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#1
428 Frua Forum / Running temperature
June 01, 2007, 23:29:45
Clifford
   I saw your car at Bonhams. Both rear wheels were a way out of line. One was toe-out so much it looked like an old BMW 3 series (that was the N/S i think). On the otherside the wheel was not pointing in anything like a straight-ahead position, it was sticking out towards the front. The diffs on these can be really bad news if they're not in properly, may i suggest you talk to/take it to Thunder road before getting further involved....
   Good luck
#2
428 Frua Forum / How many 428 Frua left?
February 08, 2007, 12:56:31
Lets not be blinkered by perceived values here, these cars have been undervalued for years with restoration costs only getting worse. I've seen this car in the past, it's everything it's cracked up to be, the work was done by Uniclip afterall. I also saw the other car at the NEC, (it was an auto. actually) a true 'minter', which had covered 50 odd thousand miles with proper history.
   As to the comment about dropheads only being worth £35000; who saw the black car sold by Bonhams at Goodwood last September? £42,000 + 17.5% premium. If you lifted the carpets you could see the road not to mention incorrect seats, no bumpers and louvres all over the bonnet. How many more tens of thousands to spend on top I wonder. Time to reappraise I think, look at the value increases of some comparable cars over recent years...
   In the best interests of the surviving cars we should all be grateful of increased values
   
   
   
quote:
Originally posted by Mark-Anthony
   
Guys,
   
   F.Y.I.
   Hurst Park are selling an automatic 428.  It has had everything done that needs doing and is in (according to them) 1st class condition.  It has had many many thousands spent on it and it is a 60,000 mile car (high 50's actually).
   They say they can show receipts for work on the car totalling over £90,000! and they claim a full service history.  Be that as it may it can't justify the asking price of  . . . are you sitting down? . . . £60,000 ! ! !
   
   Not only are they not kidding, but they claim to have sold another 428 (silver/manual) in the last 6 months for the same money.
   
   It's not that I doubt them but a 428 can't be worth more than £30,000 of anyone's money, even a manual convertible can't be much more than £35,000.
   
   We'll see how long they sit on it I guess
   
   As to anyone buying a 428 and converting it to a 427 I personally would like to burn such philistines at the stake.  A good Kirkham would be a better bet, and cheaper.  Though you would of course be able to drop a genuine 427/428 into a converted Frua without any MOT problems.
   
   Still . . . the horror.
   
   Mark-Anthony
   CRS #22
   
#3
428 Frua Forum / How many 428 Frua left?
February 08, 2007, 12:14:25
quote:
Originally posted by Mark-Anthony
   
Guys,
   
   F.Y.I.
   Hurst Park are selling an automatic 428.  It has had everything done that needs doing and is in (according to them) 1st class condition.  It has had many many thousands spent on it and it is a 60,000 mile car (high 50's actually).
   They say they can show receipts for work on the car totalling over £90,000! and they claim a full service history.  Be that as it may it can't justify the asking price of  . . . are you sitting down? . . . £60,000 ! ! !
   
   Not only are they not kidding, but they claim to have sold another 428 (silver/manual) in the last 6 months for the same money.
   
   It's not that I doubt them but a 428 can't be worth more than £30,000 of anyone's money, even a manual convertible can't be much more than £35,000.
   
   We'll see how long they sit on it I guess
   
   As to anyone buying a 428 and converting it to a 427 I personally would like to burn such philistines at the stake.  A good Kirkham would be a better bet, and cheaper.  Though you would of course be able to drop a genuine 427/428 into a converted Frua without any MOT problems.
   
   Still . . . the horror.
   
   Mark-Anthony
   CRS #22