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#1
Oh dear, pity. I've a few more jobs ongoing for the car. When there's some progress I'll start another thread perhaps.
#2
Where have all the pictures gone?
#3
Vintage, PVT & 2 Litre Forum / Re: Car No 6199 1921
February 09, 2024, 20:51:14
I have some parts that I do not need. Four cylinder bonnet top, couple of four stud wheels, some rear brake shoes large drum, and more, I'll get around to listing them sometime. Anyone have a couple of bonnet handles they dont need?
#4
Vintage, PVT & 2 Litre Forum / Re: Car No 6199 1921
February 01, 2024, 22:02:41
No I have the original, this is one I found at Beaulieu many years ago, its the same, I have the original but this has less holes. It was fully instrumented too, some handy spares.
#5
Vintage, PVT & 2 Litre Forum / Re: Car No 6199 1921
January 30, 2024, 12:31:51
A bit more progress. The early type windscreen and CAV "Torpedo" lamps.
#6
Vintage, PVT & 2 Litre Forum / The sports 6
January 26, 2024, 13:44:33
The interesting photo from a French facebook page. No Caption, when and where? Here in the UK or on a visit accross the water.
#7
1921 200 mile race side valve car.
#8
Could be.
#9
Postscript, in the pictures above the Mays car does not appear to have the drilled chassis side members.
#10
I've had a look in my pictures, the Mays car has splayed from springs, so a 200 mile race chassis, as can be seen in the picture. Another picture shows Joyce in the lightweight at the far end of the Brooklands finishing straight, the fourth picture shows the car after a hicup in the hands of Ackhead at southport.
#11
I think Joyces 100 in the hour car, used the Hawker chassis, with parallel front springs, and the 16v engine, certainly the Hawker body.  The lightweight sprinter had splayed front springs, one of the 200 mile race chassis, perhaps a mix of parts by this time. One chassis went to Raymond Mays for the supercharged hill climb car, this may have been the ex Hawker chassis, must look out my pictures. The lightweight sprinter was sold to Jack Ackhead, a garage proprieter at Southport, and raced on the sands. Did the sprinter have two incarnations, single and two seater, or were there two cars built? One of the three 200mile race cars was crashed, upside down off the track at Brooklands, so may have been then uncerviceable, leaving two more cars to use for later events.
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Quote from: Old Crock on November 30, 2022, 13:38:20
Quote from: Andrey1976b on November 30, 2022, 05:58:29
Is this chassis number unknown?  :)

One of the AC works racecars, here being driven by John Joyce on the Brooklands Test Hill in 1925.

This is the same car that averaged 100mph for an hour at Brooklands driven by Joyce, (which means, at times, it was likely to have been travelling at around 115mph). The car also contested the Junior Car Club 200-mile racing in 1922 and '24, finishing third on both occasions. It won the Brighton Speed Trials two years in a row and held the test hill record for many years.

AC sold the car in the mid/late 1920's and it was only used for a couple more years. From 1929 to the early 1960s it was left in storage before being dug out to go back racing again in the hands of Denis Jenkinson (the same, who co-partnered Moss in the Mercedes 300SLR in the Mille Miglia).

This was another car that was displayed at the ACOC centenary event in Thames Ditton.

I've never seen a chassis number so assume, as one of a small batch of race-cars, it was effectively a one-off (the chassis was far from being 'standard' anyway being drilled everywhere for lightness).
#12
Vintage, PVT & 2 Litre Forum / Re: 100mph AC
November 24, 2022, 17:55:57
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#13
There were quite a few AC's around in the five towns. Henry Farr at Newcastle were agents too, certainly in the 20's.
#14
A smallish company such as AC, a chassis retained by the works could have had multiple use, from development and competition, through to being bodied for show and demonstration, then sold on to a selected customer.
#15
Yes Old Crock I will gladly forward pictures, I should still have your address in the files, if not I can PM.
I wonder if it's possible Cecil was sold one of the works cars, rather than a "catalogue model".
Anyways it would have been an adventurous journey on the roads at the time, and back then the days were generally colder. Starting from John O'Groats, long journey to the south coast, then a crane on and off ferry, through the length of France, and if all that was a adventure, next the mountains!